Mark Dubowitz

We can debate whether they had decided to, and I'm interested to hear Scott's opinion on this, but the recent intelligence that has come out that the Iranian nuclear weapons scientists have begun preliminary work

on building a warhead.

Came out from where?

The Wall Street Journal did verify this.

There's a lot of false claims to refute.

One at a time.

Lawrence Norman actually wrote a piece.

This was during the Biden administration.

Because the Biden DNI had actually come out for the first time in their annual threat assessment.

had removed a line that said, Iran is not currently working on developing any capabilities that would put it in the position to actually deliver a nuclear warhead.

And what became the Lawrence Norman piece in the Wall Street Journal was that there actually was initial work done on metallurgy and on computer modeling.

And so those actually were defined terms in section T of the 2015 JCPOA, which defined weaponization in that section.

And metallurgy and computer modeling were some of the initial steps.

So the DNI was very concerned under Biden that these initial steps meant that either Khamenei had given the green lights

Or nuclear weapons scientists, in order to get ahead of the boss so they could be in a position if he decided to move forward on this, were in a position and their timelines were therefore expedited.

So it's interesting.

I mean, again, you've got the DNI under Biden.

You've got the CIA director, John Ratcliffe.

You've got Israeli intelligence.

You've got the Wall Street Journal.