Mark Dubowitz

They can emerge with advanced centrifuges that they can install in as many enrichment facilities as they want to build.

and Iran can enrich to higher and higher levels.

So they can go from 3.67 to 20%.

They can go to 60%.

There's nothing in the JCPOA that actually prohibits them from going to 90% in Mediterranean.

And I think at the time, the Obama administration's theory of the case was, yeah,

Sure, in 15 years' time, but in 15 years' time, we'll be gone.

Hopefully, there'll be a different government in Iran, and maybe we can renegotiate a different agreement with that government that will extend the sunsets.

So that's the JCPOA.

The reason that critics of the JCPOA—and I was one of them—

We objected to the deal is not because it didn't have some short term temporary restrictions that were useful, but that if you got it wrong and there was the same regime in power in 15 years, that regime could emerge with this huge nuclear program with the capabilities to develop nuclear weapons in these multiple hardened sites.

Iran, we estimated, would have a trillion dollars in sanctions relief over that 15-year period.

And if you got it wrong that it was the same regime in power as had been in power in 2015, then you had some difficulties.

I just wanted to lay out the case against the JCPOA.

Now, to steel man Scott's argument, I think there's a legitimate argument because I actually didn't support the withdrawal from the agreement.

President Trump withdrew in 2018.

I did a similar version of what Scott was suggesting, was I thought that the United States should negotiate with the Europeans, the French, the Germans, and the UK, who were part of the original deal, extend the sunsets as an agreement between the United States and Europe, and then collectively go to the Iranians and say, let's renegotiate this agreement to extend the sunsets.

If you don't want a nuclear weapons program, then you should agree that you don't need these capabilities.

and let's extend the sunsets for another 15, 20, 30 years.

President Trump- Somebody give me a screenshot of this.