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All right, next up and joining me now, Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.

As I say, whenever he's here, and I said it in the introduction at the top of the show, he speaks for tens of millions on many issues where very few other members of Congress at all represent that point of view.

So always grateful to him for making time and

and always interested in hearing what he has to say about great matters of national and international concern.

Senator, thank you for coming back on.

What would you say to the families of those schoolchildren who were killed apparently by an American accident?

What would you say to those families to explain this?

What would you say to the Iranian government?

We're all seeing through a glass darkly about who they are and what they believe in and whether negotiation could be possible.

If you were in Tehran and having a conversation with whoever the leaders are, what would you say to them?

You just raised two issues that I want to ask you about.

One is the absence of a robust public debate before the United States committed to going to conflict with Iran.