Mark Hertling

But I'm dated.

That was probably 20 years ago.

The first time I landed there, it was June, and it was cold as hell up there.

That's all I can say.

It's not a pleasant environment.

But it does have some great northern lights that you can see in that area.

So it could be a tourist trap.

In the last year and a half, Tim, I've been very involved with the Nordic and the Baltic countries.

Visited there a couple of times.

They asked me to speak at the Swedish Defense College.

And they were worried at the beginning of the administration.

Every once in a while, I'll get a text from some of the guys from Sweden.

In fact, I got one yesterday from a

a colonel in the Swedish army who's doing a PhD.

And he actually cited one of the Bulwark articles and said, thanks for doing this.

He says, it shows that not everybody's insane in your country.

But the Nordics and the Baltics have grown into a powerhouse.

They call themselves the Nordic Baltic Eight.

And in fact, Sweden the other day have reinforced some things they've been saying for the last two years that they ought to start producing nuclear weapons.

You know, we're now saying for nations to defend themselves that are advanced nations like Sweden's, they're now considering, hey, this is going so crazy that the only way we can compete with some of these guys, not just Russia, but obviously now the United States, is to produce our own nuclear weapons so we have them under our control.