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Mark Hertling

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524 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

Senator Kelly is actually a friend of mine.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

We were in contact before he became a senator.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

He spends a lot of time here in Orlando where I live.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

I met his wife, Gabby Gifford.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

So we exchanged notes.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And he told me exactly what he was going to do when he said, I'm going to sue.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

That's going to be a hard case, but I think it's exactly the right thing to do because it deflects the attention away from them going after him to him going after them.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And it needs to be said because it's clearly a First Amendment issue, and he's in the right in my view, and it should be an easy case to win.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

Well, I was kind of happy this morning.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

I saw on Twitter that Daniel Dale, the great fact checker, basically did the same thing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

That was one of his fact checks.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And I can't remember exactly what he said, but he said three of them are still at a stalemate.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

One of them has had a peace thing signed, but nothing has occurred after where they're still killing in the Congo.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

You know, the uprising there is still going on.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

There's no difference in Serbia and Kosovo and

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

Truthfully, we've had forces, U.S.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

forces in Kosovo for the last, well, since the 1990s, the late 1990s, after President Clinton said they're going to be out in a year.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

They are still going there and there's still rotations of U.S.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

forces under a German general in Kosovo to protect the peace.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

So not a whole lot's changed there.