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Mark Hertling

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524 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

He wanted to kill somebody.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

He pulled the trigger.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

I mean, I can't get into his head.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

That's conjecture on my part.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

But it just shows someone who's not trained in the limited use of force, which is what security forces do.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

It's different when you're in combat and you're facing a threat.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

I mean...

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

I'll say this publicly, Tim, and it's in my new book coming out.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

I've killed people at close range.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And you don't like to do that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

But when you have to, you do.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

So it's a reflection of someone who likes bloodlust, who wants to do something like this.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

It doesn't matter that he was involved in another occasion that he feared for his life a couple of months before.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

Each incident is different.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And the other thing I don't understand is why did they release the film?

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

Why did DHS release the film of his camera showing the woman saying, yeah, I'm not mad?

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

You don't kill somebody for that unless you have a unique insecurity and an inferiority complex and you like to use power.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And those aren't the kind of people that you should have on a police force.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

And she was a protester.

The Bulwark Podcast
Mark Hertling: The Cowards of ICE

Okay, that's great.