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Mark Moyar

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And so it is very harmful for the American cause.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And then you have the Pentagon Papers where Daniel Ellsberg releases this study that had been put together actually under the Johnson administration.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Now, it doesn't come out till Nixon's president.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

But it does reveal some of the deceit and mistakes that were committed by people like McNamara and Johnson and all the disastrous errors that came from that.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

So that will certainly provoke a lot of controversy.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Now, Nixon himself is not covered in the Pentagon Papers.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And at first he's kind of thinks, I'll just let this go.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

But then.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Henry Kissinger, who is his national security advisor, tells him that we have to figure out who did this and punish them ruthlessly, and that there's actually probably a conspiracy involved.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Yeah.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

So the Pentagon Papers expose the American role in the coup of 1963.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And at the time, up until this time, it wasn't clear what role the Americans had actually played.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

But now these make clear that, in fact, the U.S.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

embassy is supporting this coup.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

The CIA is involved.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

And so that that was quite disconcerting for a lot of people on both the right and the left who were wondering,

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

Why are we actually overthrowing this allied government of ours?

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

You have information about the Tonkin Gulf suggesting that maybe it was not quite what we were told, that in fact there was some provocation involved.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

You have documents indicating that they're actually planning to go to war when Lyndon Johnson's saying that he's the peace candidate.

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Everything You Think You Know About Vietnam Is Wrong β€” Historian Mark Moyar

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