Mark Rutte

And all options are always on the table.

But obviously, we should not...

speak so much about that in public.

young soldiers this is the first time ever anyone's ever tried to fight a war with old soldiers yeah but first of all it comes to the weapons with the the u.s supply the czech ammunition initiative you have the danes and lithuanians who started this initiative to directly source from the ukrainian defense industrial base there are some indicators now saying that ukrainians are able to up to 50 60 percent

source what they need from their own defense industrial base.

And then on the people side, I discussed this also with President Zelensky this week again, they are not doing that bad.

They really are catching up and keeping close to what the Russians are doing.

And the Russians are losing four to five times more people on the battlefield than the Ukrainians are.

And because of this crazy way of warfare, the Russians have decided to do.

Yes, I think I was reading that opinion piece.

I think it was on the FT website.

Refreshable competitor.

Yeah, sorry.

Next time he will no doubt publish it.

The Economist, or sorry, Bloomberg, no doubt.

But I think it is an important step.

I must say, in the division of labor between NATO and the EU, this is more being dealt with at the EU side.

Of course, I have a very close relationship with Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the European Commission.

So this is not something I'm dealing with every day, the Russian assets, but of course I follow it closely, and I thought, hey, this is a development, and this is probably a way to work around some of the legal problems to get access to the assets.

Yeah, I mean, in the end, what we need to achieve is for Ukraine to sustain in the fight and to be in the best possible position when peace talks would start.