Mark Sainsbury

They've never been part of the deal.

So, you know, piss off.

Don't try and, you know.

But if you're out there hawking yourself and your family story and, look, Mark at home with the kids and Mark at home and all this sort of stuff, then you bring it on.

So that's why.

So I always try to sort of take a bit of a step back.

And it was a bit, I suppose, of the old-fashioned thing.

You weren't the story.

Even though that slot, that 7 o'clock slot, became personality-focused, it really was more about other people, you know?

Did that sound sincere?

Oh, health is actually pretty good.

I've lost weight over the last few years.

You're looking lean.

Yeah, but I keep running into, and I've been lean for a while, but I keep running into people who haven't seen me in ages.

You all right?

You know, and you could see that, you could say, you know exactly what they're thinking.

And I always go, well, I've got to give a little page if you could say that.

If you could start filling that up, it'd be really appreciated.

Yeah, but over probably 18 months or so.

It wasn't sort of went on some big dramatic thing or whatever.