Mark Sutton
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695 appearances
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first heard Oct 2018
last heard Jul 2020
Mark Sutton’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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In spite of the fact that he wants to make this comment about sexism, he also isn't that interested in the female characters beyond what they look like?
Absolutely.
In fact, there's a lot of male characters, Ken, Charlie, Royce, who just kind of blend into one, really.
Whereas there's even one section, it's a very strange part of the book, where the teenage daughter of Timothy Leary is highly sexualised by Fitz.
There's a scene where she lays a frankenfurter, which the book just says is a phallic symbol, into a hot dog bun, which they say is cut down the middle like a woman's private parts.
Yeah, he is on LSD.
But throughout, every time we see these female characters, he's always talking about breasts and things like that.
And it was really, for me, unappealing.
Having said that, it is also worth noting as well that, yes, in this supposed free experimental commune they end up living in, it's the women who end up doing the cooking and the cleaning and the looking after the kids while the men get to sit around drinking brandy and talking about how smart they are.
Yeah, I liked that as well about it because, as you say, any attempt to describe what a trip like in fiction I think is going to end up being probably pretty pretentious and boring.
Maybe listeners out there can point me in the direction of a book that's done it successfully.
But I think you're right that...
It's actually written for a book about LSD, experimentation, group sex, commune living, the counterculture.
It's quite a staid historical novel in its own way, which I think is an interesting element of it.
I also think Timothy Leary being a real historical figure, I'd be interested to get your perspective on whether or not you thought he came down on a side, Timothy Leary, shaman or charlatan.
And Leary, in that regard, he, in the book, when he recedes is when the experiment and the commune living kind of becomes crasser in its own way.
By that thinking, you would say that Timothy Lee did truly believe in the importance of what they were doing, or at least the book presents him as doing that at the start.
And as you say, he recedes from the picture, but remains, I don't want to say like a Manson-esque figure, but it is a bit of a cult figure.
Oh, very cult-like.
Leadership over everyone.
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