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Mark Zuckerberg

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

So maybe there's something that we should do to basically try to address this. But I was really worried from the beginning about basically becoming this sort of decider of what is true in the world. That's kind of a crazy position to be in for billions of people using your service. And so we tried to put in place a system that would deal with it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

You know, and early on tried to basically make it so that it was really limited. We're like, all right, we're just going to have the system where there's these third party fact checkers and they can check the worst of the worst stuff. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

You know, and early on tried to basically make it so that it was really limited. We're like, all right, we're just going to have the system where there's these third party fact checkers and they can check the worst of the worst stuff. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

You know, and early on tried to basically make it so that it was really limited. We're like, all right, we're just going to have the system where there's these third party fact checkers and they can check the worst of the worst stuff. Right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

So things that are very clear hoaxes that there's like it's not like like we're not parsing speech about whether something is slightly true or slightly false, like Earth is flat, you know, things like that. Right. So that was sort of the original intent. Right. We put in place the system and it just sort of veered from there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

So things that are very clear hoaxes that there's like it's not like like we're not parsing speech about whether something is slightly true or slightly false, like Earth is flat, you know, things like that. Right. So that was sort of the original intent. Right. We put in place the system and it just sort of veered from there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

So things that are very clear hoaxes that there's like it's not like like we're not parsing speech about whether something is slightly true or slightly false, like Earth is flat, you know, things like that. Right. So that was sort of the original intent. Right. We put in place the system and it just sort of veered from there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

I think to some degree, it's because some of the people whose job is to do fact checking, a lot of their industry is focused on political fact checking. So they're just kind of veered in that direction. And we kept on trying to basically get it to be what we had originally intended, which is just, you know, it's not the point is into like, judge people's opinions.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

I think to some degree, it's because some of the people whose job is to do fact checking, a lot of their industry is focused on political fact checking. So they're just kind of veered in that direction. And we kept on trying to basically get it to be what we had originally intended, which is just, you know, it's not the point is into like, judge people's opinions.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

I think to some degree, it's because some of the people whose job is to do fact checking, a lot of their industry is focused on political fact checking. So they're just kind of veered in that direction. And we kept on trying to basically get it to be what we had originally intended, which is just, you know, it's not the point is into like, judge people's opinions.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

It's to provide in this layer to kind of help fact check some of the stuff that seems the most extreme. But it just, you know, it was just never accepted by people broadly. I think people just felt like the fact checkers were too biased. And not necessarily even so much in what they ruled, although sometimes I think people would disagree with that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

It's to provide in this layer to kind of help fact check some of the stuff that seems the most extreme. But it just, you know, it was just never accepted by people broadly. I think people just felt like the fact checkers were too biased. And not necessarily even so much in what they ruled, although sometimes I think people would disagree with that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

It's to provide in this layer to kind of help fact check some of the stuff that seems the most extreme. But it just, you know, it was just never accepted by people broadly. I think people just felt like the fact checkers were too biased. And not necessarily even so much in what they ruled, although sometimes I think people would disagree with that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

A lot of the time, it was just what types of things they chose to even go and fact check in the first place. So I kind of think, like, after having gone through that whole exercise, it – I don't know, it's something out of like, you know, 1984, one of these books where it's just like, it really is a slippery slope.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

A lot of the time, it was just what types of things they chose to even go and fact check in the first place. So I kind of think, like, after having gone through that whole exercise, it – I don't know, it's something out of like, you know, 1984, one of these books where it's just like, it really is a slippery slope.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

A lot of the time, it was just what types of things they chose to even go and fact check in the first place. So I kind of think, like, after having gone through that whole exercise, it – I don't know, it's something out of like, you know, 1984, one of these books where it's just like, it really is a slippery slope.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

And it just got to a point where it's just, okay, this is destroying so much trust, especially in the United States to have this program. And I guess it was probably about a few years that I really started coming to the conclusion that we were going to need to change something about that. COVID was the other big one where... That was also very tricky because, you know,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

And it just got to a point where it's just, okay, this is destroying so much trust, especially in the United States to have this program. And I guess it was probably about a few years that I really started coming to the conclusion that we were going to need to change something about that. COVID was the other big one where... That was also very tricky because, you know,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

And it just got to a point where it's just, okay, this is destroying so much trust, especially in the United States to have this program. And I guess it was probably about a few years that I really started coming to the conclusion that we were going to need to change something about that. COVID was the other big one where... That was also very tricky because, you know,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2255 - Mark Zuckerberg

At the beginning, it was, you know, it's like a legitimate public health crisis, you know, in the beginning. And it's, you know, even people who are like the most ardent First Amendment, you know, defenders, the Supreme Court has this clear precedent. It's like, all right, you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. There are times when if there's an emergency...