Martha Gimbel

No, and I should say that Secretary Besant was out there today saying that they don't think that refunds are going out in general.

This is something the Supreme Court left kind of open, and it's going to be messy, and we'll have to see what happens with refunds, how quickly they go out.

I should also say, if you are a business who has already raised your prices –

passing tariffs onto consumers, yes, tariffs may have temporarily come off, but it looks like tariffs are going back on.

Why would you adjust your prices?

So for the consumer, this is not necessarily good news.

So my first thought was, uh-oh, what are we going to do now?

And how are we going to implement this?

And when will any kind of instructions be coming for how we implement this and the like so that our importers can get their refunds?

We're kind of in a holding pattern until we know how this is going to take place, if it's going to take place, when it's going to take place.

I think I need to let it settle a little bit and to see, you know, what's going to be involved, where things are going.

I mean, I'm happy.

I'm definitely happy for our customers.

Don't get me wrong.

Absolutely happy for our customers.

I've watched a lot of customers struggle to not only understand, to get together the information and to pay the duties.

Definitely happy for them.

Just...

a little bit cautious about how things are going to go and making any plans until we have the details necessary to do so.

categorize that substantial transformation.