Martin Casado

No, I think about that a lot.

And I make sure, you know, you got to like keep it at bay.

Because it is like, you know, there's a danger of quad psychosis, which is a term that I love, but you can just get sucked in.

But, you know, I have a lot of time.

I don't have any kids, so I have a lot of time.

People with children will say, it's like having a whole other self.

Yeah, yes.

If you don't.

Trust me, and I do.

Many things.

That's an exercise I do regularly.

I'm trying to think of a recent example.

I mean, a not so recent example is I did do some things to try to simplify pricing.

I think those have been successful.

They were painful for the company because they mostly cut prices for small customers.

Another exercise I do is I ask myself, what should other CEOs do?

It's hard.

It's a trick to get yourself...

to do things that are big and scary.

So in the DBT merger, you know, when I was reflecting on that, on whether that was a thing we should seriously consider, one of the tricks I use is I ask myself, what should Sardar do?