Martin Kuro

What do you want to stay under?

Yeah.

If we hit 50, that would be bad news.

Then again, it depends on how fast we're growing.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

We're pretty much conservative and we're trying to extend it as much as possible because there's so much uncertainty.

In the ecosystem today, I mean, we're seeing a lot of companies, a lot of companies who are our own clients having delayed series A's or canceled series B's.

And that just leaves them in a really, really bad place.

So the idea for us raising additional non-dilutive capital is really to get to secure extra months, basically to give us the time to roll out our roadmap and to reach our targets.

We're just being conservative.

The Outsiders.

I don't remember the author, which is a shame, but it's a great book.

A lot of data, you know.

a lot of, uh, really going into the recipes that he used to, to, yeah, to, to just achieve this fantastic track record over the years and just so consistent.

So fantastic.

Uh, well, the, the Collinson brothers over at Stripe.

Love these guys.

Very impressive.

Uh, Ooh, that's a good question.

Um,