Marty Baron

And I thought maybe 10,000 years would be about right.

And he could afford it.

That's true.

On the other hand, look, I think that the post should be a sustainable business.

I think that's

That's the only way to ensure your survivability over the long run.

And the best protection you have is that you actually make money doing what you're doing.

I mean, Bezos said at the beginning, made clear at the beginning that he wasn't going to treat the Post like a charity.

And I told the staff many times.

that I didn't think he should.

I thought that was good because we needed to use the opportunity of his investment to create a sustainable model because if someday he decided to sell us, we'd be in terrible shape if we were not making money at the time.

And so if he got tired of that charity, then we needed to make sure that we were on solid ground.

And I really do believe that.

I just don't happen to think that what they're doing right now is the path toward achieving that.

And if I heard from them some clear vision about what the post ought to be, and it made sense, if it were coherent, then I might have a different view.

But I didn't hear that yesterday.

And I haven't heard it for the last several years.

I mean, they keep talking about resets.

They keep talking about innovation.

And I want to see, well, okay, well...