Masha Alyokhina

Still to come in this podcast, a view on Russia from a founding member of the punk protest group Pussy Riot. To overcome Putin's regime is goal for people inside the country and outside. It's not possible to win him with flowers. It's people with weapons needed.

Olen keskustelussa. Minulla on kolmas kriminaalinen tilanne, joka alkoi viime vuonna. Viime vuonna olin tilannut 13 vuotta ja 15 päivää. Se tarkoittaa, että jos näen rannan,

I desperately didn't want to leave the country for freedom of what I'm fighting. At the same time, I do understand that this is the war. If you take a side inside the country, that means that you're imprisoned, in my case, forever.

Minä ajattelin, kun minä otin tämän sanan, että minä ajattelin, mitä se on olla maailmassa. Koska poliittisesti olen maailmassa. He aloittivat tämän asian ja he antoivat minulle sanan. Fyysisesti en ole siellä. Ja miljoonat ja miljoonat ihmisiä ovat siellä.

But they politically are not there because they cannot speak because they physically will go to prison. So it's permanent, very brutal and dangerous self-censorship.

which affects personality, affects society and basically rotten the country. The state taught Soviet Union people that they are small. They are comparing to the state nobody. The protest of one person or of the group people will not lead to

I'm just trying to get a sense from you if you've got any hope that the people will protest more, will rise up.

To overcome Putin's regime is, in my opinion, this is a goal for people inside the country and outside. It's not possible to win him with flowers. It's people with weapons needed. What do you think about the West's response to Putin at the moment? Ukraine should be safe and Europe needs Ukraine, not a part of Putin's gulag.

Because if it is something wrong with Ukraine, as Putin says, next will be something wrong with you. They will find Nazis, so-called Nazis, in your country and they will invade. Putin needs war. This is like the general thing which Western people do not understand. Putin needs war because he needs to keep people on survival mode. Pussy Riot's Masha Alyokina.