Matan Grinberg
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first heard Jun 2026
last heard 13 Jun
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I have no idea what the ROI is.
Does this, is this helping our business?
That's where a lot of these companies are at now.
And I think this is why routing is so important because they're realizing, and this is a true story.
One of the CIOs I was speaking with realized we've been spending hundreds of thousands of dollars per month on people asking Opus 4.8 questions like, hey, how's it going?
What are my macros from the food I ate today?
What's the weather like?
And it's like, guys, we don't need the frontier of human intelligence to be doing this stuff for us, let alone it's not even work related in some cases.
Will we see a contraction then given the hangover period being realized?
we might see a short-term contraction of usage of the very frontier models.
But I think it's healthy.
I think it's healthier to do that than to be blind to it and then have a real sudden change there.
I've literally seen this with dozens of our customers where initially, and this is a lesson on our post sales team, where initially we came in, we were like, oh, by the way, we have these user limits, but here, these are the models go crazy.
This was before we had routing.
It happened a couple of times with customers where the usage would go crazy.
They hadn't spent the time to actually determine what parts of the code base do we want to dedicate these tokens to versus not.
And then they were like, oh my God, we're spending so much.
This is crazy.
We need to put in token limits.
And
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