Matias De Stefano
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269 appearances
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first heard Apr 2025
last heard May 2025
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Actually, it's not how it works. We have this common belief in the same way as we believe in karma or these kind of things. It's like a common thing that someone said and we start to repeat it, but it's not what it means. Or like reading the Bible. Like it's completely the opposite to what it's written, what it's said.
And the person that goes to the mountain and release everything, there is ego too. But it's a healthy ego because it's not attached to anything. Physically, it brings that process into experience. But there's a lot of people that are also detached from everything, having a lot of things. Having family, having money, having whatever. You can also be totally detached from ego.
And usually it's the people that is not attached. talking about it yeah they're just living it silently yeah it's like you it's kind of you you don't notice them yeah they go unnoticed in life usually this is because they don't have to show anything or they don't have to to prove themselves anything because if they have it or not have it is the same yeah And that's ego, but that's a healthy ego.
It's a healthy ego because it can use the points of gravity, but don't be attached to those points of gravity.
So most of us suffer because we want to hold the character as if it's us. And if I lose this... I might lose that part. If I leave this or if I stop doing that or whatever, I might lose myself. Who am I after that? That's where I'm going right now. The discovery. Yeah, that's where I'm right now. It's that question, who I'm going to become if I am not... what I build up.
So if I have to leave everything and that's the difference between essence and ego, like the ego is trying to survive. So when the essence comes in life, the essence is like, I don't care if I have this or I have that, or I do this, or I have this relationship with someone.
Or even if I have an ego, like I am, and that's it. I'm not even, it's like, not even I am. It's like, it's that. Yeah. It's just that. And the ego is like, oh, I am in between all of that. So to be healthy in that is not to try to be, Leave things away or relationships away.
It's about being more in your essence and let the things Just happen instead of trying to control them, which is what we all try to do.
Well, it's not what it looks like.
Yeah, exactly. Of course, we have to make it beautiful so people go into it.
Yeah, the first one's free. I always love to say that spirituality actually translates literally to the ability to breathe. So spirituality is not about channeling dimensions or knowing what I remember. This is not spirituality. Spirituality is whoever manages the breathing and knows how to be in presence. So the ability to breathe, that's what it actually means.
So when you try to connect with it or whatever, it's like, Go back to remember how to breathe. And that's very difficult for all of us because we are not in a constant breathing process. And some people that are in the breathing process, they are trying to demonstrate that they can do it. So they are not also in the actual breathing process. Breathing process is like being a baby. And...
having this breath and allowing themselves to cry if they need to release the tension. And so it's not about looking spiritual, meditating and breathing like in yoga. It's about actually allowing the art of breath to express. So a spiritual awakening is like when a baby is That's like, that's a spiritual awakening.
For example, it's like getting out of another human's body, feeling the pressure of the air in your lungs and changing completely from a not breathing being inside a womb to someone that has to breathe.
do this in order to expand so you are compressed in your reality and now you are expanded in your reality but for that you need to know how to breathe and a spiritual awakening is comparable to being born and being born usually in this planet is like trauma for the baby unless the mother is very well prepared during her whole life on knowing how to give birth
Otherwise, it's a process that is traumatic because it's like getting out to a different environment. You don't feel the pressure and the heat anymore. Now you can sense so many other things and you can see so many other beings around you. Before it was all filtered by your mother.
Now you don't have filter. You see so many things and it burns your eyes and bothers your ears. And now you need to eat and having teeth hurts. And so that's a spiritual awakening. A spiritual awakening is like going layer after layer to realize that you need to adapt a new breathing, that you need to adapt to new lightning. So it's a constant process of adaptation.
is not sitting there and feeling, I'm in peace. That's not spirituality. Spiritual awakening is a constant process that you have gone through as you enter this world when you were born. So imagine that again. but now with dimensions instead of just air and people.
Well, to compare this with what actually happens in the universe, speed of light. So the light, the photons are moving so fast that we compare everything to the speed of light. So how many light years it takes for you to arrive from one place to the other. Like the light from the sun to the earth, I think it takes like eight minutes from the surface of the sun to our surface of the earth.
So it's very fast, and it goes very fast in a spiral way, like the photons move like this, very fast in the universe with nothing stopping them. So for the universe, they move fast, but actually they never actually are moving. So it's like kind of a paradoxical thing for a photon. So what happens?
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