Matt Bernstein

I'm like, we're, I don't know.

Like at what point did our lives become so different?

Yes.

I know.

It's fucking insane.

Why get bogged down in the facts or statistics or reality or truth of anything when you could just profit off of inducing fear into people about the most minoritized people in this country?

Alana, why would you do that?

She also, she also, she, so, okay, for people who don't know at all about Riley Gaines, she was basically a University of Kentucky student NCAA swimmer who at a swim meet, she actually didn't lose fifth place.

She tied for fifth place.

She tied for fifth place with a trans woman.

This was now four years ago at a college swim meet.

You know, what's so interesting about Riley Gaines, I've talked about her as a case study a lot, is if you read these local interviews that she gave right after the race, she said, you know, it was a little disappointing to have to, you know, tie with someone.

And for the photo op, they only had one trophy.

So they gave my, you know, fifth place tire the trophy and then they mailed me one in the mail.

So she ended up getting the trophy, too, which I don't even know there was a trophy for the place, but, you know, whatever.

Yeah, exactly.

Like it's I don't know.

It's like rubber.

But she said in like this really early interview right after the race, she was like, regardless of everything, you know, this sucks.

But I wish her well in her transition is literally what she said.