Matt Bernstein

Like, that's got to feel crazy.

And this is also before Kanye became a full Nazi.

But it's also before Candace became a full Nazi.

So, you know.

Yeah, and it's also like part of her success is that she did this early because now everybody knows that if you are part of a minoritized group, you can slot yourself into this ecosystem so much so that I've spoken about this on this podcast.

It's become oversaturated.

Candice being Candice as pretty as she is and as good as she is on camera, if she were to try to become Candice now, I don't think it would work because the slot has been filled so many times over.

Yeah.

I mean, Candace came up around the same time as Tommy Lahren.

And Tommy Lahren is kind of like- Flop.

Where is Tommy Lahren?

Tommy Lahren, I mean, that's a whole other episode.

Let me know if you want it.

But she, I mean, Tommy Lahren at one point and-

Her ascendance to conservative media royalty was like, I think I might be a little bit pro-choice.

And they were like, we will never hear from you again.

That's where she went.

Candice leaves Turning Point USA in 2019 to join PragerU, where she launched The Candice Owens Show and officially became an on-screen talent powerhouse.

One year later, she leaves PragerU to join The Daily Wire, which has been Shapiro's online publication where she hosted her own live political talk show called Candace, which had like a live studio audience and stuff.

Now, these years when she was bouncing between Turning Point and PragerU and The Daily Wire and like all of the right wing networks.