Matt Bornstein

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1,046 appearances 6 recordings 1 series first heard May 2025 last heard 27 Aug

Matt Bornstein’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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But like the interface between human and model is really important.
So so plugin is a great place to go.
You know, it just kind of turned out that the thing that Cursor was doing was the right thing to do, right?
Like us, they're very bitter lesson pilled.
But the time they would have said, Oh, there's no need for us to go train our own model.
Of course, that changed later for different reasons, which we're gonna get into later on this podcast.
But it's like we don't need to compete with anthropic and open AI on models right now.
The interface between the human and the model is the key thing.
And this is something that that I remember Michael and Amon saying a lot and saying, just saying very clearly.
From the earliest days of cursor saying
Code in the future will look like pseudocode.
I remember Michael making this point a lot.
Like when you look at old like computer science papers, there's a section.
Here's the algorithm, not in code, but in like pseudocode, which I'm sure many people are used to.
And we don't exactly write in pseudocode now, but probably you could.
Probably you could just take a pseudocode block from an old paper and like the models now would implement that.
This is like really what the cursor guys sought from the very beginning.
And they've proven to be exactly right about this, right?
It's like this sort of natural
Language-ish specification, like pairing the programmer's intent down to the minimum possible spec.
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