Matt Clifford
speaker
475 appearances
20 recordings
6 series
first heard Jan 2026
last heard 21 Aug
Matt Clifford’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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You mean OpenAI's O1 model, the thinking model?
This is really recent, right?
This is the last year we've had thinking models.
For listeners,
You're the godfather of this.
You're very compelling.
It sounds very scary.
I've worked a lot on these issues, and I also find them troubling, as you know.
But you already mentioned your colleague, collaborator, Yann LeCun.
He takes completely the opposite side of this argument.
He thinks this is ludicrous, and I don't know what number he would give, but he'd say 0% chance of this happening.
Now, you've talked a little bit about biases, but Jan's a smart guy who's been thinking about this a long time.
What do you think is the best case for the opposition?
Why we shouldn't worry about this?
Can you give us like a non-technical sketch of how would that be different from what we're doing today?
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