Matt Jones

The day the decision is to go ahead and go in, there's obviously a lot of danger there.

Donald Trump said in a New York Times interview yesterday that he was worried it could be his own Jimmy Carter Iran situation.

What is it that made what is it you think that made it to where the administration or from what you've heard with your reporting finally decide, OK, yes, we're going to do this?

Well, I want to get to that because I think that is obviously the next question is, does it embolden them?

Okay, so now as of this moment, who is in charge?

I know the vice president is in charge, but we've also seen the president say something like, we're running the country.

So how would you describe to the average person listening here, the status of who is running, what is happening on the ground in Venezuela today?

But you would say would you say that Venezuela as a country still runs their country and still has like I mean, again, part of it is the president uses language that sometimes we don't know what what what the meaning is.

But would you still say at this moment Venezuela runs the country, even if you would say that America has a strong impact on their decisions?

Well, no, I was going to ask you when you say the Venezuelan government would be concerned.

I mean, I know there are questions about whether the election last time was legitimate.

Is there any sense beyond, I guess, those election results, how popular, like what the stance of Venezuelans in Venezuela is?

I know a lot of the Venezuelans in America are for it, but a lot of those people left probably for a reason.

So what do we know about the people there now?

Because I'm not sure I've ever read them.

So let's talk about the arrest from the American standpoint.

What is specifically Maduro charged with?

Cocaine mostly?

Okay.

So the fentanyl, that's not part of the charge, am I correct?