Matt Kielty
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Podcast Appearances
I know it, but I can't seem to fight it.
Or the guy... I think that I've always loved people.
Who always buries his emotions.
But I've never dared put it into words.
Rogers said when he got down to it, patient after patient would tell him... I feel like I've been just playing a sort of false role.
You can see how this was John.
Suit and tie, normie haircut, kind of playing the role of the good Catholic boy.
And so for people like John, Rogers had developed this way out.
To leave behind this false role.
And get closer to being one's real self.
That would become this huge part of Esalen.
So could you just walk me through, like, what was an encounter group at Esalen?
Yeah, so encounter groups, it would be kind of this break from the everyday.