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Matt Kielty

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1691 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

I know it, but I can't seem to fight it.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

Or the guy... I think that I've always loved people.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

Who always buries his emotions.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

But I've never dared put it into words.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

Rogers said when he got down to it, patient after patient would tell him... I feel like I've been just playing a sort of false role.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

And that...

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

is what causes our suffering.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

Our pain.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

You can see how this was John.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

Yeah.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

Suit and tie, normie haircut, kind of playing the role of the good Catholic boy.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

And so for people like John, Rogers had developed this way out.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

To leave behind this false role.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

This type of therapy.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

And get closer to being one's real self.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

That would become this huge part of Esalen.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

And that was...

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

So could you just walk me through, like, what was an encounter group at Esalen?

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

Yeah, so encounter groups, it would be kind of this break from the everyday.

Radiolab
You and Me and Mr. Self-esteem

You would go to Esalen.