Matt Rife

And you hear, if possible.

Crazy shit like that.

But it's still so fascinating to me.

I'm passionate about it because on a spiritual level,

it helps kind of reassure me that there is something else.

You know what I mean?

Like I, when my grandpa passed away, I was, I had like this really big moment of like, okay, there can't just be this.

There, there has to be something out there.

There's no way I won't ever see this person again.

So the fact that I can go communicate with like other, what I assume are people or spirits of people to me, that brings me like a little bit of warmth knowing that like, you know, maybe, maybe I will see that person again and maybe, you know, maybe everybody gets to see their loved ones again.

It was, I think it's going on three years this October, maybe four, three years.

No, it's all right.

That's him right there, he's so young.

Yeah, man, he was only 67.

I know, I know.

Did he get pretty sick?

Yeah, man, he had cancer, but it was like they found it out of nowhere.

His dogs pulled him on his leash and, like, pulled something in his, like, abdominal slash, like, rib cage a little bit.

And it was hurting him.

It was hurting him for a while, and it got worse and worse.