Matt Willis

It was simpler before.

If you take my example even, and yours Matt, my wife works really hard.

She does really well.

She's incredibly popular.

She does all of the stuff that she loves doing.

She earns lots of money.

So all of a sudden, the necessity for me to go out and do that is only personal to me.

She doesn't need it, even.

So it's sort of like...

i'm even though my aim is to go out work really hard and provide for my family it's that's not really it is what i'm doing but it's also not what they need it's what it's not what she needs right so she needs me to be a present father and you know somebody that is around and on hands to be with the kids and to help her which of course is something that my dad would have just never never done because he's in the office he's working

he's not there that's not his role and would never have felt bad about that because it was required it was a necessity but nobody would have even battled an eyelid if he was a bad parent for example and I'm not saying that anyone's suggesting that I'm a bad parent but it is quite difficult when I'll go out in the morning and I'll train really early and then we'll go and work all day and you're trying your absolute best to find ways to earn as much money as possible so that we can all have a free and amazing life and you come home and your wife's still out working and

So it's kind of like, right, okay, well, I'm on kids duty in Bath and all that's fine.

That's not a problem at all.

I love spending time with my kids, but it's kind of, we're both doing two big roles and it can feel like quite a lot, you know?

So it's just interesting.

Pretty good for me, I'd say.

Yeah, I've got a fucking PhD in it.

I think it's one of those things, it's like, you know, it eventually just tips over.

Do you know, the cup just becomes too full that it just tips over.

I thought I became really good at hiding, but I suppose...