Matthew Brown

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236 appearances 4 recordings 3 series first heard May 2025 last heard 7 Jun

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And, yeah, it's almost playful in its activities or like it was startled. But it's one of those cases where I look at it and. you know, it looks like a flying saucer, but it might be one of the things that maybe that was actually one of ours in the wrong place at the wrong time.
You know, it's just looking at an area over the ocean is what it appears. And this thing just comes trundling along, like underneath the cloud cover comes up. And then right when it's like almost center frame, it, scoots off to the side and like tries to get out of... Like it comes into a certain way and going, oops, I'm being... Somebody spotted me. I can get out of here. Exactly.
It was visibly... That's the feeling it had.
Hmm. Yeah. So, I mean, I only heard that term, uh, once it was released, uh, similar stuff that I had seen on the inside and it was often labeled like a floating brain or, uh, an organic or irregular shape. So that's why it's in there. Um, so yeah, I've seen multiple instances of instances of irregular shape things that look Thematically similar to the jellyfish.
I've never seen the jellyfish video itself. But seeing those, you know, there's an instance of their one in South Com right at our border crossing what appears to be into United States airspace. Let me get undetected from Mexico. I believe from one way or another, I can't recall the compass orientation right now, but I would assume into the U.S., which is why it was interesting.
Yeah, that term was describing something I had seen before.
Yes, in other contexts outside of the Middle East. Okay.
So I've seen videos and read reports of engagements, but not... live, like we're not shooting them, but engagements where, you know, either we are trying to intercept something, um, read lots of reports on that and from other countries as well, trying to intercept these things. Um, you know, each report will have its own shape that they're chasing, but guess what they are. Uh, but then, yeah, uh,
When there's an example in there off the East Coast, what would be classed as an engagement where we're up there protecting our airspace and encountering these things in space? Interacting with them in in a way that we would consider hostile.
And if it was if it was anything else, you know, if we had a Russian bomber patrol that had a fighter escort and they tried to box our fighters out, force them down from the wash, the jet wash, you know, that would be a hostile engagement. Yeah. But for whatever reason, you know, we're not describing it that way internally.
I would, you know, I'm not going to be able to say that's never happened, but I have, I've not seen them engaged, uh,
I think part of it's sometimes these might be, you know, made to purpose. So, you know, if they're only making it for a specific use case scenario, they'll design it to excel in that mission. I guess we do that.
I would not be surprised. I have not seen very large objects go in and out of the water, but I've definitely seen small to medium-sized UAPs either going into the water and disappearing or going in and out or coming out of the water. Fact. Fact.
Yeah. So it was one of the sources where, uh, you know, we have a fantastic intelligent posture, uh, it's not as data heavy. So there's just, it's just much easier to, to move around and, and access and read through quickly. Now it's one of the shortest sections in there because, uh, in, in my mind, you know, those are, these are incidental collections, right? Yeah.
I'm sure we are specifically collecting signals intelligence on this, but my, uh, research was, uh, not in those sort of data streams. That majority is accidental kind of capturing of... Exactly, from other countries, other militaries' activities related to this and their observations related to this. Or sometimes historic things that we acquire that happen to pop up in the SIGINT channels.
Yeah, so the reason there's less detail there, though, is we're using those every day, we rely on them a lot, and... They're very fragile, very sensitive, and diplomatically sensitive as well.
Yeah, NORTHCOM is a black hole. You need, I mean, just legislatively, there's legal things keeping us, the military and the IC, supposedly, from looking at the states. That's supposed to be a domestic law enforcement mission in general. You got to have a very good reason to be looking at, you know, over your neighbor's fence, basically. This is a, I think it's, you
to prevent accidental or just curious people doing things they shouldn't in our homeland, which would actually get them in trouble. It's one thing if we're doing it in some foreign country. It's one thing if we're crossing the line and spying here without a specific mission.
Yeah, I think, unfortunately, it's a product of our education system, a lack of curiosity in general about the world. There's a lot of arrogance in our academy, and that arrogance filters down to our citizens. We know the world. We haven't figured out. There's nothing left to discover here.
And I think, in general, there's so much misinformation, stigma, mythology that people grow up with that lead them to just... automatically categorize any of this as just, you know, false, fake, not real, misidentified.
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