Matthew Cox

Right.

or typically he'd go buy small items at a strip mall, and they would just absolutely destroy the strip mall, and then they would leave.

They'd go 20, 30, 40 miles down the road, you know, so that if authorities were called, they would be outside that county.

You know, if somebody put a bolo for a certain type of car, they would be past that.

So he was very, very smart in that regard, and he would typically only work with people that were close to him.

They thought, hey, they're not going to die me out.

So they would go out as a team.

And they would have a U-Haul truck.

And they would actually put all the items in the U-Haul truck, the little $10 items.

And when they got back to Chicago, they would go to the Salvation Army and donate all the items that they didn't want, which kind of gave him a little bit of a Robin Hood flair, I guess, so to speak, whatever rationalization he wanted to use.

Right at the start of eBay.

So, yeah, he definitely missed out on that opportunity, right?

I'll talk to him.

Get it straight with him.

So, yeah, that's basically what he was doing.

So it was very, very difficult because we would have offices in Springfield, Des Moines, Oklahoma City that would work part of it.

But then it would all come back to us because –

You know, you could see kind of how all roads were leading back to Rome.

If you don't get caught, it's great.

So it was one of these things where he was being really, really slick.