Matthew Cox

And I was going to these jailhouse interviews where these people would get caught with the counterfeit.

And a lot of times the way they would get caught is what he was doing is he was taking two pieces of paper and he was gluing them together, which you'd think that doesn't make sense.

But the two pieces of paper were really roughly half the thickness of a genuine U.S.

currency.

So it felt.

It felt right.

And it also gave them the ability to put the strip, right?

He could sandwich the strip in, which he was actually putting a UV coating on because at the time it was –

I think red, yellow, and green, the UV of the 150 and 20.

And he was actually taking tracing paper and doing a watermark and sandwiching it in there as well.

So if the temperature got over a certain temperature, the glue would kind of come undone.

So, you know, in the heat, Chicago usually doesn't get that warm, but in the summertime, it could be a problem if it got over like 95 degrees.

Yeah, he's got a little window.

I'm going to do anything.

I'm going to sit back and take a vacation here.

But it was one of those things where you could, you know, it was a good bill, but it was operating on shortcuts that people would take.

I mean, some of the cases that you worked back in the day, you'd understand, right?

With mortgage fraud or whatever, time is your friend.

or can be your enemy, depending on how long something takes, right?

So what he wants to do is he would, and his accomplices would give somebody the note, and he would engage them in conversation.