Matthew Lawrence

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389 appearances 2 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard Jan 2025

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Oh, you but you know, this one disabled person, they say we're doing a great job.
Right?
And it you have to get you have to be brave to be able to say no, it's not enough.
Definitely.
And you know, I remember once I went into a into a synagogue and they wanted the and they wanted to know what they could do better.
And I told them all the things that they were doing wrong.
And and they said and one of the people on the board of the synagogue looked at me and said, Well, Matthew, you're making me feel bad and that I'm a horrible person and I don't want to feel like a horrible person.
And I said, You're not a horrible person because you didn't know.
Now you're knowing.
And the thing to do is to say, I understand, I've heard you.
How can we make it better? 'Cause now you do know and if you're gonna now say that I'm a bad person because I've made you feel bad, that is actually the essence of ableism.
I'm really glad that you asked me that.
is a good a g a good plug for so I'm working on a a book with my friend and colleague uh Rabbanit Liz Shane who's a rabbi in New York who's also autistic.
We're actually working on a book now called Neurodivergent Torah which is a collection of essays by us and some other contributors uh which is exactly that looking at Jewish texts uh through a neurodivergent lens so in our case autistic lenses
And I think it's for me, it's actually the thing that got me very excited about my textual tradition.
Um, 'cause you know, for you never learn how to read Jewish text through an autistic lens.
You look at them through the eyes of tradition, whatever that means.
What's what's cool is that in Jewish tradition you have lots of different opinions and views.
And, you know, I always laugh when people ask me, What does Judaism say about X?
What does Judaism say about Y?
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