Matthew Rourke
speaker
93 appearances
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1 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard Dec 2024
Matthew Rourke’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Janelle, she was an adult, but it didn't seem like she was really treated like one, nor did she act like one. She was in her 30s, didn't have a job, lived at home, and was very much sheltered by the family.
Other people who were friends of Janelle's, they would say that Janelle was very, very protected, that before they could be friends with Janelle, they had to prove themselves to Marvin and Barbara. They were the gatekeepers for Janelle. And if either Barbara or Marvin didn't like you, then you didn't have access to Janelle.
The context early on for animosity with the Potters was basically just, for lack of a better word, ignorant feuds online. Just pointless, trash-talking, negative things being said mainly towards... Billy Payne and Billie Jean Hayworth and their circle of friends.
Tracy Greenwell was Billy Payne's sister. Tracy befriended Janelle somewhat randomly, but they became friends and Tracy introduced Janelle to Jamie Curd, which was a friend of hers and a cousin of Billy Payne. Tracy Greenwell, I guess, played matchmaker between Janelle and Jamie.
Janelle developed a crush on Billy Payne pretty early on, even though Janelle was ostensibly in a relationship with Jamie Curd, who was... Billy Payne's cousin.
It was more just petty middle school trash talking. So-and-so's a whore. So-and-so has HIV. So-and-so has slept with half of Johnson County.
It's February 2nd, so it was a few days after the homicide. Law enforcement went to the Potter's residence there in Johnson County. They lived several miles away from Billy Payne and Billie Jean Hayworth. But they conducted an interview in the living room of the Potter home.
And for most of that conversation, it wasn't really a discussion about the two deceased. It was more talking about how Janelle had been harassed and how she had been harassed by people out within the community and how she had been harassed by Billy Payne and Billie Jean Hayward.
During that interview on February 2nd, Janelle told investigators that people online had not just said mean things about her, but had threatened to rape her because she was too pretty and that she wasn't from the area, so she would never be accepted.
There seemed to be very little, shockingly little, empathy, sympathy for Billy Payne and Billie Jean Hayworth. And more of a pity party, woe is me for Janelle for having to endure this alleged harassment. After that conversation, law enforcement left there both bewildered and interested in the Potter family.
Following the February 2nd, 2012 interview with the Potter family at their house, that really started narrowing down who they talked to and what they focused on. That's when they started actually paying attention to the social media posts, who was posting, and focusing on Jamie Curd. Because Jamie Curd did have information about the back and forth online.
The first interview with Jamie Curd, it was pretty obvious that he was being deceptive. He would not admit to having anything more than an acquaintance-type relationship with Janelle.
Now, I don't think that he really participated in that, but he definitely bought into the allegations that Billie Jean Hayworth and Billie Payne were harassing and threatening Janelle.
Did you know about them being killed?
Jamie Curd had threatened to cut Billy Payne's throat in a fit of anger. Now, what that fight was about, I don't know, but that was one of the things that investigators had focused in on was that Jamie Curd had gotten mad and told Billy Payne that he was going to cut his throat. And, of course, Billy Payne later ended up with his throat cut.
It was during the second interview that he was confronted with a love letter from Janelle. And that's more or less what got him talking, is getting caught in that And when he was confronted with these inconsistencies, that's when he broke down and started talking.
When Janelle found out that Billy Payne was dating Billy Jean, the jealousy meter just broke. And Janelle got in Jamie's ear and basically turned Jamie against Billy Payne.
Jamie told law enforcement that Marvin had cornered him when Barbara and Janelle were not in the room and told him that he needed some help with something. Marvin told Jamie that he needed Jamie to drop him off near Bill's house, drive around, and come back a few minutes later and pick him up.
And it was later the night or the next night that he got a text message from Janelle saying that, Daddy's ready. Daddy's coming to get you. He says that he's picked up by Marvin Potter at his house, at Jamie's house, and they are driven down the road to where Billy Payne and Billie Jean Hayworth were living.
He said that he was told to be a lookout, that as he was walking up to the sliding glass door, he was given a gun, and he expresses to Buddy that he can't kill anybody, but Buddy just tells him that he needs him to stand by the front door.
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