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Matthew Schrag

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Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

The other thing is that they've found over and over that the higher educational attainment that people have, it has a benefit that can reduce the severity or the age of onset for the disease.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

This experiment gave new confidence to people in the field and became one of the most cited experiments in the history of the disease through 2022.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

That, again, is the journalist Charles Piller.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

So what happened next?

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

Schrag and I started to look carefully at this, and ultimately I wrote a story about it in Science Magazine.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

Primarily in this case, it involves something called Western blot images.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

Now, these are a very, very common technique used in science, particularly often in Alzheimer's research and in other fields as well.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

And what they are, are a photographic representation of proteins.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

So you can test a protein sample for the type of

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

an amount of different proteins within it.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

This is very important in Alzheimer's research because you're trying to determine what proteins are in an animal brain, for example, that might be behind the disease in some way.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

And so what Schrag found from his work, and this was validated by other forensic image experts, by me going to them, and also by leaders in the field of Alzheimer's research,

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

What was found was that these images apparently were manipulated in severe ways that tended to support the hypothesis of the experiment when the actual data did not support it.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

That conversation is one that regrettably never occurred because he wouldn't speak to me.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

I mean, Schrag's a scientist.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

I was the one who, as a journalist writing the article, of course, I did everything I could possibly do to get Lesney and his co-investigator, who at the time of the experiment was his boss, Karen Ash, to speak to me.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

Prior to the article appearing, they both refused to speak with me.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

This is detailed in my book and also in the article that I wrote about it.

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

And it was, I think,

Freakonomics Radio
671. Why Has There Been So Little Progress on Alzheimer’s Disease?

Not that surprising in a way.