Maureen O'Connell

That's not I just think that's that's actually taking you down that me too road, which is like, hey, we don't really care about the facts.

You're right.

Just tell us how you feel.

It's the P word.

Yeah, I'll jump in, Megan.

I mean, I think it's important to keep in mind also that Epstein appears, I believe, 17 times on the White House logs when Clinton is president.

In 1992, the BuzzFeed reported on this, actually, that in 1992, the State Department seized a five-story mansion overlooking Central Park from the Iranian government.

And then

But I mean, so, I mean, I think the other thing I was gonna say about Clinton, the other thing I'm so struck is how comfortable everybody was having their photograph taken.

You have to have, if you're out there cavorting with, you know, young women in the way that they were,

You have to be very trusting in Epstein.

And that's one of the things I'm so struck by is Epstein was just such a master manipulator.

He was constantly in service of everybody.

He raised money for Larry Summers, his wife.

He was always sort of two steps ahead, knowing how do I get Larry Summers to be able to spend more time here?

I have to, you know, make his wife feel good about me.

And that was going on while Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas.

So, I mean, you just get a picture here of somebody that that people were very comfortable with Epstein.

They felt protected there.

They felt like there wasn't really any risk for them.