Maureen O'Connell

Well, at one point, he shared information with Epstein in advance of an announcement that was going to be made about the bailout of Greece.

I believe that was 2010 and gave that.

I mean, if you gave forewarning of the bailout of Greece, the stock market, you know, would go up after they announced that because everyone was concerned about the

This was still during the great financial crisis from 2007 and ongoing.

And so the Greece deal is, I think after that, the stock market did boom.

And so if you had inside information there, I mean, the picture I have is that Epstein was probably not like a formal asset

I don't think he I mean, I would be I don't get the sense that he actually worked for the government.

He struck me as just somebody that had a lot of a lot of friends in very high places, had a lot of protectors in a lot of different places.

I mean, I mean, Kathy Rumler, I mean, she's just one of the most powerful attorneys in the United States, like already by 2008 to go get that job under Obama in the White House as White House counsel for her to then go work for Epstein.

I mean, Epstein just had incredibly powerful power.

You know, people all over the place.

Department of Justice, you know, likely, you know, obviously the Israeli government, you know, likely other intelligence agencies.

He spent a lot of time with Ehud Barak, though.

A lot, a lot of time with Barak.

like the kind of banal corruption that we're all sort of used to in terms of advising Ehud Barak on how to make money after he didn't come.

I mean, Epstein didn't come across as like Ehud Barak's, you know, intelligence contact.

He just came across as what he was, which was somebody that was an extremely skillful, uh,

Of course.

And then he like gets like weirdly close to me.

And he says, and the right kind of massage.