Mauro Porcini

Other times instead is complicated because it's so different from what I'm used to.

And in those moments that are complicated, you need to find strength in yourself, stability in yourself.

You need to find your resilience.

And what I know right now in my 50s is that that's growing.

You know, that uncomfort is growing.

And this is beautiful because even in the most difficult moment, I'm like, yes, I, you know, I'm discovering new things about myself and I'm learning how to react to things that are, you know, don't make me comfortable, but it's exactly what I was looking for.

And it's fantastic.

At PepsiCo, you were embedding design into food, beverage, brand, and experience.

Did you ever consider not taking the call from Samsung because of how much you had already established for yourself, for your career, your reputation, certainly the level of design excellence that you'd been recognized for?

Did you ever worry that

You might be leaving all of that behind for something that was completely uncertain.

Look, fear of the unknown and the risk connected to that is human.

It's a problem because fear is a mechanism of self-defense, right?

The nature God gave us.

So, of course, I...

I thought, is it the right choice?

And again, because I have young kids, in the middle of the decision, my second kid was born.

And literally, I was having conversations with Samsung while my son was coming to life.

And so, of course, there is this sense of responsibility that is very, very strong.

In the meantime, though, I am somebody that needs to keep innovating and inventing things and growing.