Max Hunder

In the early days of the war, he was talking about swapping Ukrainian counter drone systems and expertise for Patriot missiles, which are the big missile air defense systems.

Ukraine really needs the missiles for those because it's always running short.

But also he's suggested that Ukraine would be open to receiving money and technology in return for its technologies.

So I think Ukraine's long-term goal is to build security partnerships where it gets something meaningful in return.

That's what Zelensky is looking for.

He isn't just looking for a quick sale.

He's looking for something that is a significant long-term partnership, strengthening its diplomatic position.

and its strategic position globally.

Some of the Gulf countries are relevant for Ukraine in terms of negotiating with Russia.

Those countries have previously facilitated prisoner exchanges and rounds of diplomatic negotiations between Moscow and Kyiv.