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Max Junestrand

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624 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

So 2023, most of 2024, only open AI.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And now we're majority using Anthropic.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

No, not 4.5.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

This was prior to that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

I think it was maybe Sonnet 3 or 3.5 that we made the switch.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

What also happened was you had to start prompting the models quite differently.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And then there's a question of like, where do we actually want to put our effort?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Just pick a good model and double down on it and build all the application around it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Because I feel like our job, frankly, if you think about the pyramid of value, is you sort of have the underlying models and the frameworks.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Then Legora's responsibility is to build the legal interpretation of those models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

So how do we make them the most useful in a legal setting?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And a lot of that comes from the models, but 80% comes from building normal software.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

like enterprise-grade software around the modules.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

So all the scaffolding, all the ways that the users can actually interact with the system.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And then at the very, very top of that pyramid, we need to enable our partners, our clients, to do differentiated things.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

So our clients and the law firms and the legal teams we work with are very ambitious.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

They're vibe coding tools internally.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

They are developing MCP servers.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And they've understood that if you compete as a law firm,

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

You used to compete on expertise, on marketing, on your ability to recruit, on your hourly rates.