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Max Junestrand

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624 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

But increasingly, you're competing on tech.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Tech is the main lever for our clients to differentiate from their competition.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And so they will use a platform like Legora to get everybody up to, you know, I've spent so much time in the US now, second base.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And then they will develop things internally to try and get a little bit of a head start against some of their peers.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

We will be very promiscuous.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

That's the intro right there.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Right.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

But you think you will?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Well, I think it's our responsibility to be that because our clients have entrusted us to be their AI partner and to deliver them the outcomes that they need based on everything that you can do with AI.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

and we need to deliver them the best possible thing at the best possible price using all the tools available to us and so if a if gemini is better we will switch immediately or if openai is better we will switch immediately or if a new model comes out that's better we will switch immediately you know proven that the evals is better but then in specific workflows you could also let the users pick so let's say they have a very deterministic thing that they want to run and they always want to run it on this specific model to not break the system and you could also allow that

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

I'll bet based on what I've seen in the last sort of three, six months.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

For our type of work, it will either be cloud or Gemini.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

That is the top model.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

It will be dependent on if context window is a very important factor or not.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

So far it is not because we've built so much architecture around handling lack of context window that we still prefer the cloud models or the anthropic models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And it seems to me like OpenAI is going down the, you know, let users fine tune models like that type of journey a bit more, which so far I don't have a lot of reason to believe it.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

I think so.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

No, we're not going to throw Grok in there at all.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

I also think there's a difference between solving enterprise needs and solving B2C needs.