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Max Junestrand

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624 total appearances

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And to me, there's a perceived split, at least from my vantage point, which is that Anthropic is going more enterprise and OpenAI is going more B2C.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

and we're an enterprise class type of system, thus we should benefit more from their models.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

So basically that you're continuously running tasks at all times.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Continuously, 24 hours a day.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Exactly.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

For what it's worth, I don't think that we're there yet when we have tasks that take that much time to run.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

We don't have any task in Agora that would take 12 hours to run yet.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

But when you can put the models in loops and it gets better and better and better, the more loops it takes, then you can for sure allow that.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

I do think that we're going to move into a world where we start a lot of things as we go to bed and we wake up in the morning and it's done.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

For sure.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

I think I already started doing that with deep research when that came out for the first time.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And it would take 25, 30 minutes to run.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

It was so cool.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

But you so quickly get used to our new shiny toys.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

So one of the things that's very impressive with Cloud Code, and do they call the new thing co-worker?

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Yeah, co-work.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Co-work is maybe not so much about that tool itself, but about the paradigm that it has shown is useful and the right thing to go directionally.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And the more we were working with Cloud Code and Cursor in our engineering team, the more we just thought, hey, let's apply the same principles to the way that Legora works.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

Basically having the Legora agent access all the other tools available in our ecosystem, as well as any MCP servers that the client brings, and then basically kind of letting it roam.

The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
20VC: From Only OpenAI to Die-Hard Anthropic: The Downfall of OpenAI in Enterprise | Harvey vs Legora: Legal AI is a Winner Take All | $7M ARR in a Single Day and Raising $200M Across 3 Rounds with No Deck with Max Junestrand, CEO @ Legora

And you just give it this, again, overarching task.