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Meryl Horn (Senior Producer, PhD)

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226 total appearances

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

So, yeah, they're, like, casting a wide net here to see if people who had more fluoride in their bodies when they were pregnant went on to have kids with more of any kind of, like, neural behavioral issue when they were 3.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

So, yeah, they're, like, casting a wide net here to see if people who had more fluoride in their bodies when they were pregnant went on to have kids with more of any kind of, like, neural behavioral issue when they were 3.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

So Ashley was working from home looking at her data on her laptop when she saw the results.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

So Ashley was working from home looking at her data on her laptop when she saw the results.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

They did have more temper tantrums. They had more anxiety and symptoms linked to autism.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

They did have more temper tantrums. They had more anxiety and symptoms linked to autism.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

Well, it wasn't like every kid who had some fluoride in the water got anxiety. Right. But what she did is she kind of took the kids who were kind of near the bottom end of getting exposed to fluoride and compared them to the kids who are more towards the higher end of fluoride exposure. And here's what she saw.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

Well, it wasn't like every kid who had some fluoride in the water got anxiety. Right. But what she did is she kind of took the kids who were kind of near the bottom end of getting exposed to fluoride and compared them to the kids who are more towards the higher end of fluoride exposure. And here's what she saw.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

Yeah, it's funny. I thought that you would be way more like surprised and alarmed at this study. Like that's how I felt when I saw this. There was like a turning point for me where I was like, what? Like fluoride might actually be doing something bad here? Yeah.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

Yeah, it's funny. I thought that you would be way more like surprised and alarmed at this study. Like that's how I felt when I saw this. There was like a turning point for me where I was like, what? Like fluoride might actually be doing something bad here? Yeah.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

Okay, so I found eight studies altogether that basically did what Ashley did. So they looked at prenatal fluoride exposure.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

Okay, so I found eight studies altogether that basically did what Ashley did. So they looked at prenatal fluoride exposure.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

Yeah, yeah. And then they followed their kids and looked for behavioral issues or sometimes lower IQ. So, okay, so out of those eight studies, six of them found bad stuff. And two of them didn't find anything bad. So six out of eight studies did find some sort of, like, negative effect on the brain from prenatal exposure to fluoride.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

Yeah, yeah. And then they followed their kids and looked for behavioral issues or sometimes lower IQ. So, okay, so out of those eight studies, six of them found bad stuff. And two of them didn't find anything bad. So six out of eight studies did find some sort of, like, negative effect on the brain from prenatal exposure to fluoride.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

But the thing is, that's all just one group of studies. So other scientists tackle this in a completely different way. And they'll zoom in on water fluoridation specifically and ask, if you grew up with fluoridated water, do you have a lower IQ later in life? Right. And a lot of those studies don't find any differences.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

But the thing is, that's all just one group of studies. So other scientists tackle this in a completely different way. And they'll zoom in on water fluoridation specifically and ask, if you grew up with fluoridated water, do you have a lower IQ later in life? Right. And a lot of those studies don't find any differences.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

I mean, it could be these other sources, yeah. It could be, like... that maybe it's not the fluoride in the water. It could be they're all drinking a lot of black tea or something.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

I mean, it could be these other sources, yeah. It could be, like... that maybe it's not the fluoride in the water. It could be they're all drinking a lot of black tea or something.

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

It could also be the difference in when the kids are getting exposed because a lot of the studies finding effects, they're looking at kids who are exposed in utero and their fetuses, and a lot of the ones that aren't are looking after they were born. Another thing that we haven't talked about yet here is that we don't really know what the mechanism would be yet. There are some ideas, but...

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Science Vs
Fluoride: Is Your Water Safe?

It could also be the difference in when the kids are getting exposed because a lot of the studies finding effects, they're looking at kids who are exposed in utero and their fetuses, and a lot of the ones that aren't are looking after they were born. Another thing that we haven't talked about yet here is that we don't really know what the mechanism would be yet. There are some ideas, but...

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