Meryl Horne

Mm-hmm.

And this is the drug that Trump seems to be pumped about.

Joe Rogan, who's sort of an Ibogaine superfan, talked about all this at a big event at the Oval Office.

He told this story about how he and Trump were texting, and after Rogan told Trump how great Ibogaine is...

No.

Was it really that quick?

So, I mean, it's not FDA approved yet, but a month ago, Trump signed an executive order fast-tracking research into Ibogaine and other psychedelics because of the potential they show for treating serious mental illness.

So today on the show, what do we know about this drug?

Something like 16 million people worldwide struggle with opioid addiction and even more people have PTSD at some point in their lives.

Could Ibogaine be the solution?

And we'll find out if it helps RETs coming up.

So Ibogaine is a chemical that comes from the root of the iboga plants, which is native to Western Africa.

The plant is interesting.

It kind of has these like orange fruit.

Yeah.

Yeah, and it's been used by people there for a long time in indigenous medicine, by people who practice the Bwiti religion.

And so, for example, it's taken during an initiation ritual that happens around the time someone becomes a teenager.

So the way all psychedelic drugs work is by latching onto proteins in your brain, and that changes the way that neurons will communicate with each other.

So maybe some parts of your brain will like relax a little and maybe other parts of your brain will kind of start talking to each other that don't normally talk so much.

So like for psilocybin, the thing that's in magic mushrooms, we see tons of changes in activity all over the brain.