Meryl Horne

And so presumably Ibogaine works in a similar way since it also makes us like hallucinate, but scientists are still working out the details for Ibogaine, like what brain regions or neurotransmitters are involved.

We know it's doing something.

Yeah.

So let's talk to Alan Davis.

He's an associate professor at The Ohio State University.

We've talked about psychedelics with Alan before.

Nice to talk to you again.

It's been like seven years.

Yeah, because I interviewed you first in 2019.

Aw, Alan.

We first talked to Alan about psilocybin.

He's also done research on DMT.

So I wanted to check his temperature about Ibogaine.

If all psychedelics were superheroes, would Ibogaine be more like Captain America or someone kind of darker like Wolverine?

I'm not a big enough nerd.

And for Retz, he did have a hard trip.

He said that all these traumatic memories came up like this time in his life when he was getting abused, actually.

Oh, gosh.

And that's not uncommon to relive the darkest periods of your life while you're on Ibogaine.

But still, all the things that Alan heard did make him curious about this drug because he started meeting people at conferences.