Mia Freedman

And then Harry and Meghan's people tried to say there was a checklist of what you were happy to be published.

We were not happy for things to be published and they were published in error.

But then the Kardashians leaked and said there was no checklist.

They're actually just talking shit.

You're either in or you're out.

I think this speaks to the key tension within the marriage of the Sussexes where Meghan is influencing like it's 2016 and Harry is

Does not like that and keeps saying social media and all of that is the enemy and I want to be taken seriously.

I think Harry's pretty lost.

He doesn't.

Don't go to the party, buddy.

You can't be half pregnant, can you, Holly?

But also she wants fame and there's nothing wrong with that.

She wants fame and it's almost like she keeps trying to find a way, like reasons to be famous, like.

She's a duchess.

She's got a brand.

She's got a TV show.

But when you go, what does it all stand for?

She keeps announcing these foundations.

If you said, what does her brand stand for?

You probably, it's kind of superficial influencer stuff.