Michael Byrnes

That's correct, Tash.

The matter's now set down 12 to 23 October for 10 days.

And it looks like, the judge hasn't made a final decision on this, but it looks like the two cases are going to be heard together, either concurrently or consecutively, but in effect as one big case.

So they've brought separate matters, but it looks like it's going to be heard as one big case in October.

Well, there's a lot involved, Tash.

I know Kyle's lawyers wanted the case heard in June.

Indeed, the matter up to today had been, or at least Kyle's matter, had been tentatively set down for 22 to 26 June, but there's so much work involved

The pleadings still haven't closed, so that has to be done.

Evidence has to be prepared.

There's documents go back and forth.

So a case of this magnitude, in fact, usually would not be heard for a year or so.

So they're actually getting on relatively quickly.

But of course, Carl's lawyers wanted it heard as soon as possible.

Because of the remedy he's seeking, he in effect wants specific performance.

He wants to be reinstated and back on the air.

And so every day that passes, that argument gets weaker, that becomes more difficult.

So they wanted it on earlier in June.

October though, still pretty fast for a case of this size and complexity.

Yes, so it arose from an exchange between Kyle and Jackie O on 20 February, where Kyle was highly critical of Jackie.

Jackie was deeply upset and distressed about that.