Michael Franzese

But not that other person.

You're a fine, upstanding person.

I agree with that, and I believe that undercover sting operations are necessary to catch people that you suspect of being criminals.

However, there are situations that I'm very familiar with where they will use another criminal to go into that

become a confidential informant, and he will help to manufacture a crime by getting people to say things that they wouldn't have ordinarily said, put them in a situation, bring them a criminal activity of some form, and put them into it.

So yeah, because they don't know what this other person is doing.

I'll give you an example.

Michael Francis, we know he's an organized crime guy.

We got our informants told us that, but we haven't been able to catch him in a crime.

So let's send somebody in there and see if they can create something to put him involved in.

And then we have our crime.

That's done.

I can't agree with that.

I cannot.

When you wire up a confidential informant and that informant brings criminal activity to that other person because that's the person that's the subject of the sting operation, that's entrapment as far as I'm concerned because that wouldn't have happened if your confidential informant didn't go in and manufacture that crime.

They're bringing him the crime.

He's part of that criminal activity.

Absolutely.

And if you do, you're not entrapped.

But if you do it, then you are entrapped.