Michael Franzese

And that's what the confidential informant is supposed to do, entrap you.

Well, I disagree with that.

I think you said it would have never happened if you didn't put, if law enforcement didn't put their CI in there to try to entrap that guy, then there would have been no crime.

It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter because you're still creating the crime.

Law enforcement is creating the crime through their confidential informant because it would have never happened if that confidential informant, if he never met him, then there would be no crime.

You can, and then there's no entrapment.

But there wouldn't have been anything at all if your guy didn't come in.

He wouldn't have to refuse anything, because there wouldn't have been anything to refuse.

No.

But here's what I'm saying.

Then get him for that crime.

Then the government didn't push that.

The government didn't create it.

The government didn't manufacture it.

He did it on his own.

You have every right to get him at that point.

That's correct.

That's correct.

But let me ask you a question.