Michael Franzese

In jail.

Okay.

But we don't know what he's doing at this point, so we have to figure it out.

So let's get a confidential informant, okay, wire him up or do whatever it is that you do, and put him with John Gotti and try to bait John Gotti into doing something, whatever it might be, so that we can get something on him.

Tell me you're not manufacturing that.

Being in the crime family is not a crime.

Sure.

Yes, I understand that.

But you don't know that.

You don't know that.

But you're manufacturing that particular crime.

You're not understanding.

There still was no crime.

You're creating a particular crime by bringing that confidential informant into him and giving him a situation, a criminal situation, that you're hoping he bites into.

If there was no confidential informant, there's no crime.

So you manufactured that situation.

He can.

Right.

He can't say no, but I'm going to say the same thing that I said to that young lady.

He wouldn't have to say no if you didn't manufacture something for him to say no to.