Michael Levin
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first heard May 2025
last heard May 2025
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generate form to maintain it to have this memory to all of these things.
How do they scale up from the tiniest uh uh beginnings?
And uh so so that's that's that's one one thing that I'm really interested in is the scaling.
And the second thing is this this uh idea when I think biology does this really well is polycomputing.
So this is something that Josh Bongard and I have been developing.
This idea that what you really have instead of one objective, correct uh, you know, what this this set of physical events is computing this function or this has information about this thing, is
To consider all the different observers.
And so within a living structure, you have many nested observers, right?
You have you have you have both laterally and vertically, you have uh the system's parts, you have the the the other uh systems uh around it that are all continuously interpreting each other and what each other are doing, and uh be because they're all hacking each other, right?
They're all they're all trying to figure out where do I end, where does the outside world begin?
How do what are the things I have control over?
What can I affect?
How.
what are the most efficient signals i can get it to do other things and so on and so
So this idea of, and and of course, of course, systems also, as you said, systems also have to interpret themselves.
They that's the most interesting thing about significant um uh agents is that is that they they uh it's not just that others apply a sort of intentional stance to them and see goal directed behavior, but they themselves are able to close that that strange loop and and do it for themselves.
So um so this is the sort of thing that we've been working on is is these stories of
Scaling, which has many uh implications for for cancer and for and for other things.
But one thing in particular that I'm really interested in is the concept of mistakes.
So as you as you observe uh chemistry, chemistry doesn't make mistakes.
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