Michael Levin

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Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal · Michael Levin and Anna Ciaunica: Consciousness Beyond the Brain · 29 Jan 2025 podcast

Things start to degrade.

And it's not because there's damage.

There's nothing wrong with the hardware.

There's nothing wrong with the data.

There's nothing wrong with the pieces.

But the goal has been reached and the co and and and the system does not know what to do anymore and it and it sort of regresses and and and and disorder comes apart.

It's a very weird uh kind of a way of thinking about it because it suggests that it's intrinsic to being a goal directed uh in morphogenetic space cognitive system.

It isn't caused by some outside disturbance or or DNA damage or any of that.

It's a fundamental feature.

So um so so here's my crazy analogy.

I wanna.

Uh imagine uh kind of this uh this m the Judeo-Christian version of heaven, right?

So so you so so you get there, everything is great, there's nothing to worry about, and it's infinitely long.

So now I can sort of imagine, so I this is just uh intuitively, I don't know if any of this is right, but you can sort of imagine if I had a snake under those conditions.

I don't think there would be any problem.

I think a snake could just do snake things for b basically forever, right?

If I had a dog.

I'm t I tend to think so.

If you had a nice farm with rabbits and all the stuff that dogs like, I tend to and every day was kind of like every other day, but they were all good days.

I tend to think the dog would be fine, maybe forever.

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