Michael Ovitz

And I can help in the non-technical stuff that's critical to, you know, how do you, what are the nuts and bolts of building a business?

How do you build a culture?

How do you write a budget?

You know, how do you market the product?

How do you make sales?

Who do you hire to do sales?

Who do you hire to be your early 10 employees?

You know, there's so many things to be done.

And these are young people that I've learned something fascinating, which is this generation in tech.

They just want to know.

They don't want to know what you've done that's great.

They want to know what you failed at and how to avoid it.

It is so fantastic that the way they think is so counterintuitive.

What would be an example of that?

An example of that is I got a call five years ago when I published my book from Patrick Collinson at Stripe.

And I think the Collinson brothers are two of the smartest guys in the business.

And Patrick invited me to lunch.

I went over and I sit down at a picnic table after going through the cafeteria line.

He said, are you ready?

I said, yeah, I'm hungry.